This is an astonishingly bad take

It's also full of lies and it's comparing apples to oranges

People shit talk each other behind their backs on IRC all the time

In fact, I'm probably going to shit talk this take on IRC

Kaito / Katie Sinclaire @KS

@Elizafox as someone that's used IRC for a decade and is an IRCop of a reasonably sized server

how can one take be this wrong

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@KS @Elizafox What the actual frig is this person talking about? IRC is literally the wild west of social interaction (there's a reason why I left it after years and years of being a regular on Freenode [old enough to have spoken to Lilo]). You can't *GET* more libertarian than IRC.

Regarding its claim to being healthier: maybe, maybe not. That's a deeply subjective attribute unless you're willing to define your metrics ahead of time AND get everyone to agree on them as being definitional.

@KS @vertigo you left in time

it's in decline

there's still crapflooding, spamming, and sometimes DDoS

@Elizafox @vertigo I still heavily prefer it to Discord's text chat which is where most people seem to be moving to

But that's just that whole worry with getting everyone into your walled garden and then starting to lock things down after the fact, all over again

@KS @Elizafox Most people who I mention IRC to today either assume one of two things: corporate internal IRC which is well-insulated, well-managed from the public networks; or, Freenode.

OR, they'll say, "Eww, IRC? You should move to Slack." Hehehe.

I'm still waiting for my chance to throw up a Citadel BBS instance and use that for internal communications. It's a near perfect fit for that use-case, in my opinion. Oh well.

@Elizafox @KS No, those are the reasons why I left. People joining the ##Forth room who had severe egos and massive chips on their shoulders. And there wasn't a thing I could do about it. Couldn't kickban 'em, because they'd just log in with a new account, etc.

The frequent net-splits were entertaining at first, but eventually grew to be an annoyance. Logs would fill up, 3 pages of join/unjoin events followed by only 2 lines of useful discourse, then more pages of joins and unjoins.